Project 814?s Jon Pomplin Reveals The Secrets of Declassified by
Jedd Beaudoin
Project 814?s Declassified is a reminder of a much more pure time in
music, when songs remained unfettered by studio technology and were left
to stand or fall on their own merits. More often than not, the songs of
Project 814 stand tall, releasing waves of positive energy and joy upon
listeners, bathing the willing in a pure, hot light. Tracks such as ?The
Speed Of My Life,? ?X,? and ?Episode 69 (Don?t Go In There)? provide evidence
of a band with both a heart focused on the most joyful elements of the
craft.
P8 bassist Jon Pomplin was kind enough to grant me an interview to talk
about the band (their release is out now on Cellar Records), work on their
upcoming release, and an endorsement deal with GHS Strings. For more on
the band, please visit http://www.project814.com
JB: The band is about to begin work on their second album, what is
it, do you think that you?ve learned between the last one and now that
you intend to apply to this new project?
JP: Well we haven?t really come up with a definite title as yet. There
are a few ideas floating around but we?ll have to wait and see what fits
best as the recording progresses. The songs are a bit more diverse than
the last CD because everyone is writing on this one. This should give a
real cool vibe. I have been studying fretless bass with Dann Glenn for
over a year now and my playing and composing skills are at whole new level.
With the addition of the Hot Wire basses, my overall sound has expanded
too. The fretless has an incredible vibe to it. It is so expressive and
beautiful which will add a wonderful new element to the sound.
JB:You?re a band that does pretty much everything for yourselves.
The obvious disadvantage is that it can take time away from creating music
or perhaps lack of money, but what do you perceive as the advantages of
your situation?
JP: Actually, there are a lot of advantages to our situation. Todd has
grown the label (Cellar Records) into a major force in the industry, without
giving up his vision of a record label built to help the artists, not exploit
them. The ability to have total control over our destiny is a rare thing
these days. Creative freedom allows us to explore our music without constraint.
Granted, it can be a bit risky too. We don?t have the millions of marketing
dollars available that some major acts have. Our fan base has pretty much
grown from more of a grassroots approach. Because we keep a bigger part
of the sales ?in house,? we can invest in our own art without having to
answer to anyone but our fans.
JB: You recently inked an endorsement deal with GHS strings. What
does that mean in terms of your professional life. I would imagine that
it allows you a certain amount of exposure in publications, etc. What else?
(And, hey, it?s pretty easy on the wallet; bass strings aren?t cheap, after
all!)
JP: Yes, the exposure is a great benefit. An endorsement of this level
is not something that is just handed out by either side. I?d tried all
kinds of different strings for various reasons over the years but when
it came down to getting exactly what I wanted, I always found myself stringing
up with GHS. A little while ago, a very good friend turned me on to their
Progressives and after putting a set on my Fender I just fell in love with
them. Every one of my basses was immediately strung with Progressives including
the fretless. I like to change my strings at the first sign of them going
dead and these just never seemed to die. When I wrote to GHS to thank them
for such a great product, we hit it off right away and it grew from there.
I?d be lying if I said getting my strings cheaper wasn?t cool. Hell, I
have 5 basses that need to be fed. But even without the endorsement, I?d
still use GHS exclusively. The company really listens to the feedback from
customers and goes the extra mile to make the best possible product. How
many companies can you say that about? After 24 years of playing bass,
I can say with absolute confidence that these are the best strings on the
planet. To have a company of their stature believe in my music as I believe
in their product is a great relationship that could last well into the
future.
JB: What first attracted you to bass and how long was it before you
figured out how it was actually supposed to be played? I ask that because,
you know, I think most of us, when we?re really young, just think bass
is a four string guitar.
JP: I?ve always seemed to gravitate towards the rhythmic elements of
music. Tying that in with melodic qualities was interesting from the very
beginning. I guess being in the groove was exciting to me. While most kids
wanted to be a guitarist or the front man, I wanted to do something different
than the rest of the crowd. Probably the non-conformist rebel in me. The
fact that there weren?t that many bassists around was another plus ?cause
I had more control over who I played with. I started with lessons as soon
as I got my first bass so the proper technique was implanted right away.
Through all the years of playing I have [found] there is always more to
learn.
JB: Who were some of the key players for you as you were finding
your way as a bassist and who were the non-bassists you tried to cop licks
from?
JP: Well, early on it was McCartney, Dave Hope, Chris Squire, John Paul
Jones and Geddy Lee that I really dug the most. Through the years my musical
influences have changed and expanded. My first teacher introduced me to
fusion, and I fell in love with it. I was amazed by Jaco, Jeff Berlin and
Dann Glenn?s work. I picked up every thing Jean-Luc Ponty put out too.
The melodic nature of all the bassist?s work with Jean-Luc?s violin was
a wonderful inspiration. In high school, I was introduced to the incredible
dynamic elements in classical music. Mozart, Beethoven and Wagner just
blew me away. That is why it?s really important that the musical programs
in the schools be protected from the bureaucrats. I still am finding new
things that inspire me, though it?s not always musical in nature.
JB: The music on this current record is what I tend to deem ?honest?
sounding: I can?t really describe it beyond that. It?s just, you know,
?real.?
JP: When we went into the studio to record the songs on this CD, the
bass, lyrics and some other instruments were written but most were still
works in progress. The guy took this musical sketch and played what they
felt worked best for the song from their own perspective. We talked about
the general themes but I wanted it left open to their own interpretation.
That created a whole new work beyond what I had personally envisioned.
A perfect example was the song is Speed of my Life. Todd and I finished
the lyrics the day we recorded them. The verses have the guitar doing the
swells and the key doing the sitar part which, I had never considered when
writing the music, yet work great together. Bob created the percussion
parts in the studio with just a simple bass sketch, generally the case
on all the songs he played. The guitar and synth leads were totally spontaneous
and added to the song the day we recorded them. The next CD will have that
same approach to a certain extent, though some pieces will be a bit more
structured since there are songs written by other members. I believe in
capturing a moment when recording, it seems less manufactured that way.
JB: In some ways it?s an ?old? record and by that (and I mean this
in the best possible way) I mean, of course, that it seems to be in the
same spirit as so many early heavy rock records from bands such as Grand
Funk Railroad, Blue Cheer and Mountain. Maybe it?s not so much that you
sound like them but that you?ve captured some of that same spirit.
JP: That wasn?t something that was intended when I set out to do this
project. As we began to put the songs together as a band it became apparent
that there was a musical theme forming. I guess it?s partially a product
of our own musical tastes and experiences. The music that was being created
in the days when those bands were in their prime is timeless. I consider
it a compliment to be compared at any level with them.
JB: What can you tell me about the writing of ?Courage, Honor, Glory??
JP: There are a lot of things in that song that can be interpreted different
ways. At the time it was written, the world was a much different place.
This was before 9-11 when the US was flexing its muscles in smaller conflicts
that only seemed justified if it was profitable to someone. It was the
end of the millennium and it seemed the use of the military had almost
become a tool for corporate takeover instead of the last resort in the
defense of freedom. It was easier to envision a corporate mentality dictating
the use and control of the military, as in Vietnam when the powers that
be micro-managed things to the point that those doing the work became disillusioned
and the public ostracized those willing to fulfill their duty. In a sense
I wanted to use it as a metaphorical statement about those wielding absolute
power, whether in a corporation, country or extremist group. The choruses
hearken back to the days when my grandfather fought and died in World War
II, when the country was united in its resolve, much like these days following
9-11. Like when the generation before mine worked for a company and there
was loyalty on both sides. The news is proof enough that that ideal is
dead and the worker, the soldier, the middle class are all the beasts of
burden so that the rich can get richer. It is also is appropriate in today's
world, though from a different perspective, which is what a good song is
supposed to do. A warning to those that would attack us that our resolve
is strong and our power great, and to those with the power that war is
a terrible thing only to be used as a last resort. When we recorded this,
the mechanized vocal parts were really fun to create. We used a vocoder
on it and spent hours playing around and laughing our asses off before
we actually got it done.
JB: ?Cathode Ray Reflections? is another one that I?m curious about.
Anything you want to say about that?
JP: Lyrically this is one of my favorite works. I wrote it right after
the tragic shootings took place at Columbine high school. In fact, the
entire song was written in an afternoon a couple of days later and, with
the exception of one word, was never changed. At the time, the media seemed
insensitive, almost hell bent on the exploitation of the situation. I had
wanted to scream out ?what about the kids and their families?? I saw the
whole thing as a kind of microcosm of how society could get lost in the
destructive throws of self-centeredness. To be honest, even now, when I
hear the line ?promise ends with a weapons blast? it moves me. I really
hope that the young men and women who died that day will be remembered
so that their deaths were not in vain.
JB: The lyrics on this record address some pretty large (and important)
concerns and while they?re ?heavy? in some ways, I also get a sense of
hopefulness from the record as a whole.
JP: I think I was a poet long before I became a musician, and I try
writing about what I feel and see around me. Writing songs is somewhat
spiritual in nature. I have tried to write pop tunes and failed miserably.
Yes there are some pretty heavy things there but it felt right to do them.
In my opinion, there is way too much candy ass pop tunes on the radio and
I want more meat in my music.
JB: So, how does a band like yours survive in a time like this?
JP: Balance is the key. We have all been in the music business for a
long time and have learned what the pitfalls are and how to avoid most
of them. A balance between work, play and family is important. That?s one
of the reasons we didn?t tour following the release of Declassified. Each
of us had other obligations that had to be met first. With the current
economic situation, it can become tough to keep things in perspective.
It seems we have to work even harder to reach the same goals. It is a business,
one we love, but a business none the less. I think we will survive because
we are not doing this to get rich. We do it because we love music and feel
very comfortable creating and playing it together. We treat it as work
where the fans are the important element.
JB: If you were going to put together a five-item starter kit for
beginning musicians, what would it include?
JP: Now that?s a very interesting question. A copy of the movie This
is Spinal Tap. Well, at least for everyone except drummers. There are some
real truths in there about the business. Music is supposed to be fun but
if you do it for a living, it can be brutal at times. You have to be able
to laugh at yourself or you will go nuts. A beginners book on reading music.
It?s really important to be able to at least read the basics. Tab doesn?t
count. A decent tape machine so they can listen to themselves playing their
instrument. It is a great learning tool. A calendar or big clock because
there is no excuse for not taking the time to practice your art. Lastly
a double CD or really long cassette with some selections from a variety
of musical disciplines. The point is to expose them to all kinds of different
styles. Hopefully, with an open mind they may find there is something that
can be learned from every form of musical expression. In that way, they
may find their own muse.
JB: You have children, what do you try to teach them about music?
JP: Well, both my kids are big music lovers and are excellent writers
and poets. My youngest has been taking voice lessons and the oldest plays
a little guitar and drums and is quite a good photographer. They have their
own tastes in music and art which I respect. I may not always like their
choices, but I never try to control what they listen to. I hope they can
find that art is a positive form of _expression that allows infinite possibilities.
My oldest actually got me interested in some pretty cool bands and we were
in crowd when Disturbed shot the video for The Sickness.
JB: Feel free to add anything that I?ve missed.
JP: We?re planning to tour some major venues next summer when the new
CD is out. That will help expose our music to new fans and give us the
opportunity to meet a lot of current fans too. It?s exciting to be able
to do what we love and I really look forward to performing for people.
That is the ultimate thrill.